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Transcript: Nikki Haley on "Face the Nation," September 3, 2023_我的网站

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一 |       近日,中央网络安全和信息化委员会印发《促进网信企业高质量发展行动计划(2026-2030年)》(以下简称《行动计划》)。

二 |     The following is a transcript of an interview with former ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, a 2024 GOP presidential candidate, that aired on "Face the Nation" on September 3, 2023. 


ROBERT COSTA: Good morning, Ambassador Haley.NIKKI HALEY: Good morning, Bob. Great to be with you.      ROBERT COSTA: Ambassador, let's begin with Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader who appeared to freeze up before cameras in recent days for the second time in two months. His doctor then issued a statement saying McConnell, who was hospitalized earlier this year after a fall, is able to continue to work. "Occasional lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery," the doctor wrote. Ambassador, you said this in recent days, the Senate is "the most privileged nursing home in the country." And McConnell needs to "know when to leave." Do you believe it's time for McConnell to step down from his leadership position?HALEY: Bob, I am completely for term limits. I'm completely for mental competency tests for anyone over the age of 75. And I'm not saying that to be disrespectful. Here you have Mitch McConnell, who's done great service to the country. You have Dianne Feinstein who had a great career. You've got Nancy Pelosi, who's been there a long time. At what point do they get it's time to leave? They need to let a younger generation take over. We want to go and start working for our kids to make sure we have a strong national security, to make sure we have a stronger economic policy, to make sure that America is safe. And we can't do that if these individuals refuse to give up power. This is not just a Republican or Democrat problem. This is a congressional problem. And they've got to know when to leave it, it's time to pass this down to a new generation of conservative leaders that want to take our country to a better place.                 ROBERT COSTA: So just to be clear, when Republican senators come back to Washington, should they have a leadership shakeup on the table? And should they talk about potentially having somebody else come in as the leader in the Senate?HALEY: I want this for Republicans and Democrats. I want to make sure that they all know it's time to go. There's a reason the American people want term limits. It's because they don't want people staying there forever. They don't want people drunk on the power. They don't want people to think they're the only ones that know how to run Congress. Because right now, what has Congress done for you lately? We have an open border that's out of control, they're spending like drunken sailors. We've got continued issues, whether it comes with education, whether it comes with the debt, whether it comes with how we're going to have national security. We need people at the top of their game. We have too many issues on the table that need to be dealt with. We can't continue to have these people who think they know better than the American people, the American people are saying it is time to go. If they would approve term limits, the American people would show that. But until then, they've got to know that, look, we appreciate your service, but it's time to step away.ROBERT COSTA: So you've talked about competency tests. But let's dig a little deeper on that. There are age requirements for serving in the house, 25 years old, 30 for the Senate, 35 for the presidency. Should there be an age limit on the presidency in your view, and maybe a constitutional change or legislative change?HALEY: I think there should be mental competency tests and I don't care if they're for everybody 50 and older. I don't care if they're for the entire Congress. These are basic tests, Bob. These are tell us where you were born, name four words that start with the same letter. How many grandchildren do you have? These are basic questions that anyone should be able to answer. And the way you do that is just when a candidate files to run for office, incumbent or newcomer, they have to give their financial disclosures. They should also give a notice from the doctor that tells about their mental capacity. I think that we need that. We can't stand watching Dianne Feinstein sit there and be told by an aide how she should vote. We can't worry about Mitch McConnell being frozen at a podium. We can't have Joe Biden forget where he is. Our enemies are watching all of this. And every time they have an instance like that, America is less safe because our enemies think we're out of control. And that's gotta stop.                      ROBERT COSTA: You talked about spending. In just a few weeks there's an important spending deadline in Washington, a potential government shutdown looms if they don't come up with a spending agreement to keep the government funded. Do you believe Republicans should take a hard line and what exactly should they do with this looming?HALEY: Well, I think Congress needs to do their job. You know, Biden has pushed us into- into socialism light. He's spending on every single thing and they've forgotten the role of government. Government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the people. It was never meant to be all things to all people. So as we go into this, I have said that Biden has spent already $5 trillion in his term, but Republicans have spent too. We've watched them open up earmarks for the first time in 10 years, we've watched the 2024 appropriations bill has 7.4 billion in earmarks. Democrats have 2.8 billion in earmarks. So all of them are spending like drunken sailors and it's our tax dollars that they're spending. What we're saying is, I had to balance a budget when I was governor of South Carolina, Americans have to balance their budget at home. Why is Congress the only group that refuses to balance a budget? They need to go in there and do the hard work. They need to make sure that they are giving money back to the taxpayers, they must make sure that money is not being wasted. So I think they need to do their job.ROBERT COSTA: The question though, Ambassador, is what exactly should they do in terms of the negotiating position they take? For example, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia has just said in recent days, that Republicans should not vote to fund the government unless an impeachment inquiry begins against President Biden inside of the House of Representatives. Is she right? Or Is she wrong to take that position?HALEY: She's one of many that are going to throw things on the table like that. What I'm saying is Congress needs to do their job. Balance a budget. I have said I will veto any spending bill that doesn't take us back to pre-COVID levels. The only group that talks about closing down the government or playing these games are members of Congress. The American people aren't talking about that. The American people are telling Congress, do your job, balance a budget, stop the spending, stop the borrowing, eliminate the earmarks, clawback the hundreds of billions of dollars of unspent COVID dollars. Go after, instead of 87,000 IRS agents going after middle America, go after the hundreds of billions of dollars of COVID fraud that we know exist. These political games, the American people have no- no use for it. They just want them to do their job, it's not that hard. It's why I continue to say we've got way too many lawyers in Congress. We need an accountant. I'm an accountant. That's why I want to put an end to this and start having government work for the people again.ROBERT COSTA: Over the past week, former President Donald Trump, the front runner in the race, he pleaded not guilty to criminal accusations in Georgia. When you were on that debate stage in Milwaukee, which has earned you some good reviews inside of the party- inside of the Republican party, you raised your hand and said you would still support him if he was convicted of a crime and the nominee next year. Do you stand by your decision to hold up your hand on stage and back Trump? Should he be the nominee and be a convicted felon?HALEY: What you saw were candidates on that stage said that they would do exactly what they signed and pledged to do which is support the Republican nominee. That's what we are saying. I don't think President Trump's going to be the nominee. I think it's going to be me. But I will tell you that any Republican is better than what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are doing. ROBERT COSTA: Even if they're convicted of a crime?                      HALEY: We know that a vote for Joe Biden is a vote for a President Kamala Harris. It- first of all, he's innocent until proven guilty. But you are implying that the American people are not smart. The American people are not going to vote for a convicted criminal. The American people are going to vote for someone who can win a general election. I have faith in the American people. They know what they need to do. And so, I think that, yes, I will support the Republican nominee always and I will make sure that that person, we're going to pick someone that's going to beat a president Kamala Harris. Because we can't have a President Kamala Harris or we'll never get our country back.ROBERT COSTA: How are you going to consolidate quickly the non-Trump vote in this primary? We're at now in September just months away from the early voting.HALEY: It's not about consolidating a non-Trump vote. It's about consolidating where Republicans want to go. I believe Republicans want to stop the crazy spending. I believe Republicans want to bring crime down and go back to law and order. I believe Republicans want transparency in schools. I believe Republicans want to secure the border. And I believe Republicans want to prevent war and have a strong national security. That's what we're talking about. It's not about a person, it's about a country. And it's not just about Republicans. It's about independents. It's about conservative Democrats that know that we're going in the wrong direction.ROBERT COSTA: Ambassador Haley, we'll see you soon on the campaign trail. We really appreciate you taking the time on a Sunday morning. Thank you.                                  。中央网信办有关负责同志就《行动计划》回答了记者提问。  1.问:制定出台《行动计划》的背景和目的是什么?  答:网络信息技术是全球研发投入集中、创新活跃、应用广泛、辐射带动作用显著的技术创新领域。以网络信息技术为核心驱动力、以网络安全和信息化为主要业务的网信企业是网络强国建设的重要力量,对培育发展新质生产力、巩固提升国际竞争力具有关键作用。

三 |   党中央高度重视网信企业发展。习近平总书记指出,发展数字经济,离不开一批有竞争力的网信企业。强调要坚定不移支持网信企业做大做强,加强规范引导,促进其健康有序发展。企业发展要坚持经济效益和社会效益相统一,更好承担起社会责任和道德责任。

四 | 近年来,我国网信企业快速发展,形成了一批规模较大、有国际影响力的大型企业,培育了一大批创新型中小企业,在促进创新、推动发展、创造就业、国际竞争等方面发挥了重要作用。  制定出台《行动计划》是贯彻党中央关于网络强国建设和“十五五”时期网信工作有关部署的具体举措,目的是进一步强化政策引领和要素保障,激发各类网信企业活力,规范引导网信企业健康有序发展,推动网信企业走高质量发展之路,实现质量更好、效益更高、竞争力更强、影响力更大的发展。  2.问:《行动计划》的总体考虑是什么?  答:《行动计划》坚持以习近平新时代中国特色社会主义思想为指导,深入贯彻党的二十大和二十届历次全会精神,认真落实四中全会部署,深入学习贯彻习近平总书记关于网络强国的重要思想,完整准确全面贯彻新发展理念,加快构建新发展格局,坚持鼓励支持和规范发展并行、政策引导和依法管理并举、经济效益和社会效益并重,以优质网信企业培育服务为主线,加快提升网信企业的技术创新、赋能产业、国际化经营和安全发展能力,持续优化营商环境与要素保障,统筹推动高质量发展、高水平安全和高效能治理,做强做优做大网信企业,为网络强国建设提供有力支撑。  3.问:《行动计划》的主要目标是什么?  答:《行动计划》提出,到2030年,我国网信企业综合实力显著增强,科技创新力、产品硬实力、服务竞争力明显提升,网信产业生态和发展环境全面优化,安全规范、健康有序发展的制度体系更加健全,网信企业赋能经济社会高质量发展的作用更加凸显。

五 |   4.问:《行动计划》部署了哪些重点行动?  答:《行动计划》明确了7项行动21条举措。

六 | 一是企业培育服务行动,建立完善优质网信企业培育服务机制,针对生态主导型、产业引领型、高成长创新型三类企业分类施策开展培育服务。二是创新能力提升行动,加强关键核心技术攻关、强化企业创新主体地位、推动科技成果转化应用。三是赋能产业升级行动,赋能制造业数字化转型、数字乡村建设、数字消费提质升级,推动企业绿色低碳发展。四是海外市场拓展行动,支持企业有序“走出去”、构建企业出海服务体系。五是安全有序发展行动,守牢安全底线、防范无序竞争、加强网络法治建设。六是营商环境优化行动,营造公平竞争市场环境、优化营商网络环境。

七 | 七是发展要素保障行动,强化金融支持、数据保障、人才支撑。

八 |   5.问:下一步就落实《行动计划》有哪些工作举措?  答:在中央网络安全和信息化委员会领导下,依托国家信息化发展工作统筹协调机制加强部门会商、协调配合,形成发展合力,切实推进《行动计划》重点任务落实。中央网信办建立健全网信企业监测和动态分析机制,定期听取企业意见建议,加强政策评估,及时总结推广做法经验。

九 | 同时,推动各地网信部门及时了解网信企业发展过程中遇到的难题,加大惠企政策宣贯力度,确保各项政策措施落地见效。

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